{"id":231,"date":"2022-11-17T22:13:33","date_gmt":"2022-11-17T22:13:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/christiancircassians.com\/tr\/?p=231"},"modified":"2022-11-17T22:13:33","modified_gmt":"2022-11-17T22:13:33","slug":"shapsugh-kara-beyle-soylesi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/christiancircassians.com\/tr\/shapsugh-kara-beyle-soylesi\/","title":{"rendered":"SHAPSUGH KARA BEYLE S\u00d6YLE\u015e\u0130"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-212 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/christiancircassians.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Kara-tr.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"571\" height=\"297\" srcset=\"http:\/\/christiancircassians.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Kara-tr.png 571w, http:\/\/christiancircassians.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Kara-tr-500x260.png 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 571px) 100vw, 571px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">Kendinizden biraz bahseder misiniz? E\u011fitim durumunuz ve mesle\u011finiz.<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">Ankara\u2019da, 1967 y\u0131l\u0131nda do\u011fdum. Hacettepe T\u0131p Fak\u00fcltesi\u2019nde okudum. \u015eu anda doktor olarak hayat\u0131m\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcrmekteyim.\u00a0 Evliyim. 2 \u00e7ocu\u011fum var.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">Adige-Abhazlar\u0131n hangi boyundans\u0131n\u0131z?<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">\u015eapsu\u011f\u2019um.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">\u00c7erkeslik ya\u015fam\u0131n\u0131zda ne kadar \u00f6nemli?<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">\u00c7erkesli\u011fimi son y\u0131llarda ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 s\u00f6yleyemem. Benim \u00c7erkeslik anlay\u0131\u015f biraz k\u00f6hnele\u015fti herhalde. Ben biraz bu konuda tutucuyum. Gen\u00e7 ya\u015fl\u0131 ili\u015fkileri dejenerele\u015fti. Ne ya\u015fl\u0131 ya\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 biliyor ne gen\u00e7 gen\u00e7li\u011fini! Kad\u0131n-erkek ili\u015fkileri de tuhafla\u015ft\u0131. Art\u0131k \u00c7erkes gelenekleri ile de\u011fil T\u00fcrk-\u0130slam gelenekleri ile ya\u015f\u0131yorlar. Bakt\u0131m, ben bu \u2018\u2019yeni \u00c7erkes k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc\u2019\u2019ne adapte olam\u0131yorum, kendi kabu\u011fuma \u00e7ekildim.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">Yeti\u015fti\u011finiz \u00e7evre nas\u0131ld\u0131? Aileniz dindar m\u0131yd\u0131?<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">Son derece muhafazakar bir \u00e7evrede yeti\u015ftim. Anadolu\u2019nun en muhafazakar kasabalar\u0131ndan biridir yeti\u015fti\u011fim yer. Annem pek de\u011fildi ama babam baya koyu dindard\u0131.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">Dindar olarak m\u0131 yeti\u015ftirildiniz? Ne \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde, nas\u0131l?<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">Babam ne kadar dindar olursa olsun, annem yeti\u015fmemizde daha etkin oldu. Karde\u015flilerim de ben de babamdan \u00e7ok korkard\u0131k. Sert ve ac\u0131mas\u0131zd\u0131. Annem \u00c7erkesce konu\u015ftu\u011funda azarlard\u0131. \u00c7ocuklara k\u00f6t\u00fc \u00f6rnek oluyorsun derdi.\u00a0 Biz gene de annemizin \u00c7erkesce konu\u015fmas\u0131n\u0131 istiyorduk. Onun sayesinde babam\u0131n bask\u0131lar\u0131ndan kurtulduk.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">Eski dininize inanmay\u0131 neden b\u0131rakt\u0131n\u0131z?<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">Daha \u00f6nce toplumun y\u00fczde 90\u2019\u0131 gibi M\u00fcsl\u00fcman\u2019d\u0131m. Yani namaz k\u0131lmazd\u0131m, Kuran ne yaz\u0131yor bilmezdim. Cumalara gitmezdim. Ara s\u0131ra kilo vereyim diye oru\u00e7 tutard\u0131m o kadar. Fetullah\u00e7\u0131 bir wuneko\u015fum vard\u0131. Benim bu hayat tarz\u0131ma \u00e7ok k\u0131z\u0131yordu. \u00c7ok da sevdi\u011fim bir insand\u0131. Bir g\u00fcn bana \u2018\u2019Bak, Kuran\u2019\u0131 oku, e\u011fer seni ikna edemiyorsa o zaman yakan\u0131 b\u0131rakaca\u011f\u0131m\u2019\u2019 dedi. Ben de olur dedim ama pek ciddiye almad\u0131m. O da pe\u015fimi b\u0131rakmad\u0131. Sonunda Kuran\u2019\u0131 okudum ve ateist olmaya karar verdim. Wuneko\u015fum \u00e7\u0131ld\u0131rd\u0131. G\u00fcnlerce benimle konu\u015ftu ikna etmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131. \u00c7ok uzun tart\u0131\u015fmalar yapt\u0131k. Sonu\u00e7 olarak, ne s\u00f6ylesem; \u2018\u2019onu \u00f6yle anlamayacaks\u0131n, orada onu kastetmiyor, kitab\u0131 bir b\u00fct\u00fcn olarak de\u011ferlendireceksin\u2019\u2019 t\u00fcr\u00fcnden cevaplar ald\u0131m. Tart\u0131\u015fmalar aylarca s\u00fcrd\u00fc. Ben ateist oldum, ama onu da deist yapt\u0131m!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"TR\">Yurtta ayn\u0131 odada kald\u0131\u011f\u0131m bir Ermeni arkada\u015f\u0131m vard\u0131. Baya politik bir \u00e7ocuktu. Sohbetlerimiz genellikle Ermeni ve \u00c7erkes halk\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7ektikleri \u00fczerineydi. Bir g\u00fcn dedi ki, siz \u00c7erkesler e\u011fer \u0130slamiyet\u2019i kabul etmeseydiniz, \u015fimdi bu durumda olmazd\u0131n\u0131z! Saatlerce konu\u015ftuk. Ben de bu H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131k ne mene bir \u015fey diye merak uyand\u0131. O zamanlar b\u00f6yle internet falan yok. Okul k\u00fct\u00fcphanesine bakt\u0131m. Kutsal Kitap yok. Sonra dersler, sosyal hayat derken bu konuyu unuttum. Okulu bitirdim. Askerli\u011fimi yapt\u0131m ve i\u015fe ba\u015flad\u0131m. \u0130\u015fin ilk g\u00fcn\u00fc, \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m klini\u011fin kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131nda bir kilise vard\u0131. Benim ofisin penceresi kilisenin giri\u015f kap\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcyordu. Kap\u0131 komple demirdi. Kale kap\u0131s\u0131 gibi.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"TR\">Bir Pazar n\u00f6betinde kiliseye gelenleri g\u00f6rd\u00fcm. Kad\u0131n, erkek, \u00e7oluk, \u00e7ocuk. Sadece filmlerde olur zannederdim. Canl\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcnce \u00e7ok ho\u015fuma gitti. Bir ibadethaneye hep birlikte ailece gidebilmek ne g\u00fczel bir \u015fey dedim.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"TR\">Sonraki g\u00fcnlerde, gazete okurken, kibrit kadar bir ilan g\u00f6rd\u00fcm. Bedava \u0130ncil. \u0130\u00e7inde de 100 Dolar diye. \u015eaka yap\u0131yorum. \u0130\u00e7inde 100 Dolar yazm\u0131yordu. Ben de bir tane istedim. Bir hafta i\u00e7inde geldi. Bir solukta okudum. Kuran\u2019la uzaktan yan\u0131ndan alakas\u0131 yoktu. Bir y\u0131l kadar Kutsal Kitap ve H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131k ile ilgili makaleler okudum. Ve karar verdim. H\u0131ristiyan oldum.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">Ailenizle ili\u015fkiniz nas\u0131l etkilendi?<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">\u00c7ekirdek ailem (e\u015fim ve \u00e7ocuklar\u0131m) ben H\u0131ristiyan olduktan sonra hayat\u0131ma dahil oldular zaten. Annem, babam ve karde\u015flerime de bu konuda bir \u015fey s\u00f6ylemedim. Zaten ayr\u0131 kentlerde ya\u015f\u0131yoruz. Bayramdan bayrama g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcyoruz.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">\u0130nanc\u0131n\u0131z nedeniyle k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fczde olan ama uygulamad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z \u015feyler var m\u0131 (Kapanmak, dans etmek, kad\u0131nlarla ya da erkeklerle bir arada olmamak vb.)<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">Ben bu soruyu, M\u00fcsl\u00fcman arkada\u015flar\u0131ma sormu\u015ftum. Bana da sorulaca\u011f\u0131 hi\u00e7 akl\u0131ma gelmezdi. Adam 40 ku\u015fak \u00c7erkes, ama ad\u0131 Abdullah! Soruyorum niye Abdullah, diyor ki \u2018\u2019Ne var bunda, senin ad\u0131n da Cengiz!\u2019\u2019. Hakl\u0131! Beni T\u00fcrkiye asimile etti, seni M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanl\u0131k! Her zaman \u2018\u2019\u0130yi ki H\u0131ristiyan olmu\u015fum\u2019\u2019 demi\u015fimdir. Bu konu \u00e7ok uzun ben k\u0131sa keseyim. H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131k inanc\u0131 benim k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcne m\u00fcdahale etmiyor, asimile etmiyor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">\u0130slam\u2019dan ayr\u0131lmak aile ili\u015fkinizde sorunlara neden oldu mu?<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">Hay\u0131r.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">\u0130slam\u2019dan ayr\u0131ld\u0131ktan sonra siyasi g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerinizde ayr\u0131mlar oldu mu? Siyasi g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerinizi nas\u0131l s\u0131n\u0131fland\u0131r\u0131rs\u0131n\u0131z?<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">Sosyal demokratt\u0131m. Ama \u015fimdi daha sol bak\u0131yorum d\u00fcnyaya. Her solcu gibi, g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerimi \u00e7a\u011fda\u015f, insan haklar\u0131na sayg\u0131l\u0131 ve d\u00fcr\u00fcst olarak s\u0131n\u0131fland\u0131r\u0131yorum.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">M\u00fcsl\u00fcman toplumunda do\u011fup b\u00fcy\u00fcyen bir kad\u0131n\/biri olarak herhangi bir \u201cbask\u0131\u201d ile kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131n\u0131z mi?<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">Evet. En \u00e7ok da \u00e7ocukken. Kuran Kursu bizim ku\u015fa\u011f\u0131n en b\u00fcy\u00fck kabusuydu.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">Din de\u011fi\u015ftirenleri ara\u015ft\u0131rd\u0131n\u0131z m\u0131?<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">Hay\u0131r.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">Aileniz ve arkada\u015flar\u0131n\u0131za H\u0131ristiyan oldu\u011funuzdan s\u00f6z ettiniz mi yoksa gizlediniz mi?<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">Daha \u00f6nce de belirtti\u011fim gibi biz zaten H\u0131ristiyan bir aileyiz. Ama annem, babam ve karde\u015flerime de bu konuda bir \u015fey s\u00f6ylemedim. Gerek de duymad\u0131m.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">Aileniz ve arkada\u015flar\u0131n\u0131z \u0130slam\u2019dan ayr\u0131lman\u0131z\u0131 nas\u0131l kar\u015f\u0131lad\u0131?<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">Arkada\u015flar\u0131m genellikle sol tandansl\u0131 insanlar. T\u00fcrk olanlar normal kar\u015f\u0131lad\u0131. Ama \u00c7erkes olanlar da tuhaf bir gerginlik oldu. Ancak sonradan hepsi normale d\u00f6nd\u00fc. Hatta daha da iyiye evirildi diyebilirim.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">Hristiyan olmak isteyen ancak \u015fu veya bu \u015fekilde geri \u00e7ekilenlere ne tavsiye edersiniz.<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">Huzura kavu\u015fmak ve kendi k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fczden kopmadan ya\u015famak isteyenlere bir an \u00f6nce bir kiliseye gidip, \u0130ncil almalar\u0131n\u0131 tavsiye ediyorum.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">\u00c7erkes toplumuna iletmek istedi\u011finiz bir mesaj var m\u0131?<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">Ermeni arkada\u015f\u0131m\u0131n y\u0131llar \u00f6nce bana s\u00f6yledi\u011fini ben hem\u015ferilerime s\u00f6yleyeyim.<br \/>\n\u2018\u2019Siz \u00c7erkesler e\u011fer \u0130slamiyet\u2019i kabul etmeseydiniz, \u015fimdi bu durumda olmazd\u0131n\u0131z!\u2019\u2019<br \/>\n\u0130steyen istedi\u011fini anlas\u0131n art\u0131k.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"TR\">D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncelerinizi bizimle payla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z i\u00e7in te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederiz.<\/span><\/strong><b><span lang=\"TR\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b><span lang=\"TR\">Ben te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kendinizden biraz bahseder misiniz? E&#287;itim durumunuz ve mesle&#287;iniz. Ankara&rsquo;da, 1967 y&#305;l&#305;nda do&#287;dum. Hacettepe T&#305;p Fak&uuml;ltesi&rsquo;nde okudum. &#350;u anda doktor olarak hayat&#305;m&#305; s&uuml;rd&uuml;rmekteyim.&nbsp; Evliyim. 2 &ccedil;ocu&#287;um var. Adige-Abhazlar&#305;n hangi boyundans&#305;n&#305;z? &#350;apsu&#287;&rsquo;um. &Ccedil;erkeslik ya&#351;am&#305;n&#305;zda ne kadar &ouml;nemli? &Ccedil;erkesli&#287;imi son y&#305;llarda ya&#351;ad&#305;&#287;&#305;m&#305; s&ouml;yleyemem. Benim &Ccedil;erkeslik anlay&#305;&#351; biraz k&ouml;hnele&#351;ti herhalde. Ben biraz bu konuda tutucuyum. Gen&ccedil; ya&#351;l&#305; ili&#351;kileri dejenerele&#351;ti. 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